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I Don’t Agree With Gary Vaynerchuk

Posted on 03 April 2014 by Andrei

First of all, I’ve always enjoyed Gary Vaynerchuk’s appearances and he’s definitely a person worth listening to. If that weren’t the case, I wouldn’t have written this post in the first place. When it comes to his DOMAINfest keynote though, I think he’s fundamentally wrong and will try to explain why.

Before I start, I just want to say that since I wasn’t there in person, I’m only working with the information Morgan shared though his post. But while I wasn’t able to watch his entire appearance, I’m reasonably confident I understood the essence of his message.

I think the quote below represents a good starting point:

“Someone asked Gary about the domain name, and the value it would have ten years from now. Gary made a great point, look at the 16 year old who in ten years will be picking-out cabinets. Your average 16 year-old spends a LOT more time using apps then surfing the web, yes, that happened. So in ten years when she’s looking for cabinets she’ll go to an app she already knows and loves, the idea of going to will seem as old school as going to the library and looking things up in a card catalog.”

Two things are (in my opinion) fundamentally wrong with this way of thinking:

1) Referring to the 16 year-old who uses apps and stating that since apps will alter his behavior, domains will be less important in the future

2) The assumption that type-in traffic is the main selling point of a domain

Let me start with the first one. Sure, young people are using apps, fair enough. But let’s thing about it for a moment:

Approximately 15 years ago, a *lot* of 16 year-olds used Geocities, couldn’t we have said something along the lines of “16 year-olds are now using Geocities free of charge and the concept of not paying for their Web presence will remain so deeply ingrained in their mind that when they grow up, there’s no way they’ll be willing to pay a premium for a domain!” back then?

Of course we could have, yet as we can see, that didn’t exactly materialize.

It’s just an example of course but I hope I managed to make it clear why in my opinion, referring to current habits of young people and extrapolating in order to predict the future has been proven time and time again to be an unreliable method. Now of course, that doesn’t mean it couldn’t end up being true this time but given the awful track record this approach has, I tend to think not twice but ten times before using it.

Alright, let’s move on to the second aspect I referred to: the assumption that type-in traffic is still the main selling point of a domain. In fact, I think we shouldn’t use the word “still” in the first place because type-in traffic should have never been the main selling point.

Some domainers thought it was but personally, I think the most important selling point of a domain is… the domain itself 🙂

In other words: its memorability, the trust factor it automatically gives you and so on. Sure, type-in traffic is a nice (or in some cases very nice) bonus but it’s just that… a bonus.


Simply because type-in traffic is unpredictable and there are a lot of things which can end up having a negative effect on it: browsers that block parked pages, the decline of typing in domains as a way of surfing the Web (I agree with Gary on this one and actually referred to this aspect a few days ago) and so on. Again, a nice bonus but definitely not the main “selling point” of a domain, not by a long shot.

These are just two of the arguments I consider fundamentally flawed, I don’t want to insist too much because I’m sure you understand my way of thinking and the “What will the future bring when it comes to domains?” debate is way too complex for just one blog post to be enough.

Am I saying domain values can only go up?

Of course not.

I don’t know what will happen to domain values, neither does Gary Vaynerchuk or anyone else for that matter. I respect his way of thinking but in my opinion, his thought process is fundamentally flawed when it comes to this particular debate.

8 Comments For This Post

  1. Says:

    And I agree.

  2. Kassey Says:

    I couldn’t image all businesses “living” in the app stores of Apple, Google, and MS. For example, what email do they use without a domain name?

  3. Jay Says:

    Currently web businesses which do NOT have memorable, intuitive and category describing domains are at the complete mercy of Google in SEO and Adwords and as many businesses have noticed Google is constantly looking for new markets to compete with you (travel,shopping etc.) and constantly trying to maximize the money they take from selling you clicks.

    The only way out is great domain.

    In the Apps model it is completely naive from Gary Vaynerchuk to think that both Apple and Google will not maximize the money they earn so if somebody is trying to sell Cabinets through an app they should be in the future prepared to pay an app placement fee to Google/Apple to get their app in their app stores and pay extra to have it shown prominently in the app store and in the future also paying 10%-15%-20% of their sales made through the app to Google/Apple.

    The only way out is great domain.

    The price for premium domains (1 words and meaningful 2 words) is going up and will be going up.
    3 word domains value will slowly decline.

  4. eh Says:

    I agree. Gary is is straight up wrong and it is irresponsible to spread that nonsense. Owning your own address (.com) will always be better than renting space in someone else’s domain.
    I am glad you are not like other bloggers who are nothing but groupies who choose to drool instead of challenging this nonsense.

    Gary may be right in other things, more power, but this is foolish and sound like a straight up hustle. Try again.

  5. Kassey Says:

    Domain name is your address — and identity — in the virtual world. Why live under somebody else’s roof, pay rent, and be subject to all their rules?

    @Jay, “The price for premium domains (1 words and meaningful 2 words) is going up and will be going up. 3 word domains value will slowly decline.” Mostly agreed if names make sense.

  6. Kassey Says:

    Domain names with negative connotation such as usury may be difficult to sell.

  7. Jay Says:

    Businesses swallowed the facebook hype but many have already learned that it is completely idiotic to base your campaigns and business on service which you do not control and whose terms can be changed on Zuckerbergs whims.

    Expect the amount of businesses advertising their facebook pages to decline and companies which will still advertise their facebook page instead of their dotcom to be looked as fools in the future.

  8. Mr Domainer Says:

    Hi. How are you? I am fine thankyou.

    Apps are just as popular as shareware/freeware was in the 90s… Once people get over downloading random apps they will be dominated by the few big companies. Right now a small team, or even 1 1-man team can make an app, but it won’t be long before you need a team of hundreds of people to make an app that anybody is interested in.

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